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It was a revelation to me, after researching Thomas Cromwell, to discover how his son Gregory has been maligned by several historians. There are numerous ways in which it might have entered the family’s possession. In the sessions of 1542 and the following year he was present at about 80 per cent of the recorded sittings, and he made up for a sessional absence in 1544 by attending on 25 out of 26 possible occasions in 1545. The Stafford knot is alternating with the mulberry sprig badge of the Mowbrays (the Howards of course inherited the Dukedom of Norfolk through the 1st Duke’s mother Margaret Mowbray, daughter of the 1st Duke of Norfolk of the earlier creation).The portrait of Norfolk certainly suggests to me that it must have been the then fashion to have heraldic designs incorporated as embroidered detail into shirts during this period.It is also noticeable that the lady in the NPG portrait has a prominent nose very similar in shape to Norfolk’s – and since Norfolk was her uncle this was probably therefore a Howard family physical trait. Nothing is known of Cromwell’s part in the Parliament which was to attaint his father. The Stafford knot and Mowbray mulberries clearly appear on the Duke’s shirt so I don’t see how it can be contested that they are anything other than heraldic. I will ask my brother to see if they have any information in their extensive library at Bonhams regarding the Fiennes portrait. Also the age of majority in the 16th century was 21, not 18. Life at court was one big chess game and it seems as if it continues to this day with their life storiesEighteen rather than twenty-one as the age of majority for boys?True for the Crown, which is unique, and indeed Edward VI was flexing his will at sixteen, with his Device for the Succession (Lady Jane Grey). The identification is based on the fact that it was left in 1705 as part of the legacy of the patrician Danzig family, von Schwarzwaldt with a library and a coin collection to the Lutheran church of St Peter, Danzig. He was buried in the chapel at Launde three days later and his widow married John Paulet, later 2nd Marquess of Winchester. The same is true of Margaret Vernon’s letter referring to her being promised the governance of Gregory until he reaches the age of 12. I suspect many sitters will have looked similar because of artistic convention. Jane Seymour resided with members of her family, first at the home of Sir On 18 March 1537, then a young widow of reduced means, residing in which doth comfort me most in the world, that I find your lordship is contented with me, and that you will be my good lord and father the which, I trust, never to deserve other, but rather to give cause for the continuance of the same.On 12 November, three months after their wedding, Elizabeth and Gregory took part in the queen's funeral procession.Gregory Cromwell appears to have been devoted to his wife and children.
Another possibility is that his general health was poor. Their distaste is reflected in their depictions of the man and his son, Gregory.10 May 1536 - The Grand Jury of Middlesex Meets at WestminsterThis website uses cookies to improve your experience. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Thank you so much again Teri – this is a great debate! So why would he be – as we know he was that year – with a private tutor at Cambridge? As far as I can see the lady bears no resemblance whatever to Jane or either of her brothers but she does bear some resemblance to the Duke. This also seems to be supported by the fact that his mother’s name is given as “Katherine Glossop” – Glossop is in Derbyshire where the Gregory family were prominent and prolific. I have not yet identified where the crest of a pelican vulning its breast comes from, nor Gregory’s Pegasus supporters in the arms on his memorial in the chapel at Launde Abbey – and it may be worth looking at the extensive heraldry in the carved fireplace surrounds at Tattershall Castle to see if any aspects of the heraldry are shared between Thomas’s family and that of the earlier Barons Cromwell.Hi Teri. © Crown copyright and The History of Parliament Trust 1964-2020 This is one of the problems with historical revisionism when based on flimsy evidence and then taken up and repeated unchallengedI would very much like to think it is a missing portrait of my grandmother’s ancestress but I must say I would need far more convincing of this than by what I have seen so far – and still go with the original, traditional attribution of the sitter as Queen Catherine Howard.I also note that Queen Catherine Howard was a second cousin of Elizabeth Seymour and to that extent she was a member of the family anyway Sadly as you show by the discrepancy in ages the Ralph Sadler possibility goes straight out the window! Oakham was transferred to Gregory and his heirs in November, 1538 by his father. I have been interested in the Cromwell’s for quite awhile and this info is just the filling inside the cake.
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